The Canadian delegation was made up of the Honourable Claudette
Tardif, Senator, Chair of the Canadian Group of the Association; the Honourable
Michel Rivard, Senator; and Ms. Élaine Michaud, M.P. The Honourable Serge
Joyal, P.C., Senator, who was in Paris, joined the delegation. Serge Pelletier,
Executive Secretary, accompanied the delegates.
The French delegation was made up of Mr. Georges Colombier,
Member of the National Assembly, Chair of the French Group of the Association;
Ms. Hélène Conway Mouret, Senator, incoming Chair of the France-Canada
Friendship Group in the Senate; and Ms. Catherine Coutelle, Member of the
National Assembly. Mr. Matthieu Meissonnier from the Senate and
Mr. Alexandre Michel from the National Assembly assisted the French
parliamentarians and organized the visit as a whole.
The
mandate of the Standing Committee, in between the Association’s annual
meetings, is to organize future activities. The meeting in Paris took place in
a special context: a change in the makeup of the French Senate’s France-Canada
Group, upcoming elections in France, and the need to take into account budget
restrictions announced in both legislatures.
Thursday, March 15, 2012
a)Working lunch at the National Assembly
On Thursday, March 15th,
participants met over a working lunch. The two parties discussed at length
the reorganization of the Association in the context of cost-saving measures. The
Chair, Senator Tardif explained that a review of the activities, and
particularly the objectives and anticipated results, of the
13 parliamentary associations formally recognized and funded by the
Canadian Parliament was under way in order to reduce costs. The Canadian Group
has already reduced the allowable airfare for future meetings in France,
reduced the number of delegates to the annual meetings from nine to seven,
and suggested that the number of meeting days be reduced.
A review of the relevance, usefulness,
and costs of all international activities, and particularly friendship groups,
has also been initiated in both houses of France’s legislature. For the moment,
the France-Canada Interparliamentary Association’s budget in the Senate is not
affected. Although the French Group considered reducing the number of delegates
to the annual meetings, this idea is problematic in the Senate in particular
since it further reduces the representation of various political parties there.
Although the possibility of eliminating the Standing Committee was also
considered, the French Group was eventually of the opinion that the pattern of
holding two meetings a year should be maintained as an indication of the
Association’s success and closeness. The French Group also suggested that the
Association’s work focus on two themes each year (to be considered both at
the meeting in France and at the meeting in Canada), and that the regional
cultural discovery aspect of the meetings be limited.
Senator Tardif informed her French
counterparts that the two upcoming elections in France were of the
greatest interest to the Canadian Group, which had therefore decided to
organize two observer missions, one to the May election of the President
and one to the June election of members of the National Assembly. As a result
there would be no annual meeting in 2012, but Canada would invite an expanded
Standing Committee to Ottawa in the fall of 2012, when Parliament will be
sitting.
Following questions by the Chair,
Senator Conway Mouret, discussion ensued on the results of the meetings of
the Association, which deserve to be more widely shared in both legislatures
and disseminated to the public, as are reports on missions and parliamentary
studies. The French Group has committed to producing a five-year report on the
Association’s activities, showing the relevance and quality of the work the Association
accomplishes.
Final decisions on all these proposals
were postponed until the working meeting to be held the following day.
In turn, participants commented on the
political situation in the two countries.
Senator Tardif noted the outcome
of the May 2nd, 2011, federal election, which had relegated the
Liberal Party of Canada (LPC) to the status of the second opposition
party, behind the New Democratic Party (NDP). The LPC, now in an
intensive rebuilding phase, is currently headed by an interim leader,
Mr. Bob Rae, until March-June 2013, when a leadership convention will
be held to identify a permanent successor to Mr. Michael Ignatieff. In
January 2012, the LPC held a major convention in Ottawa, attended by
close to 3,000 delegates. At that convention, a “primaries” method was
chosen to identify the party’s next leader, creating a new category of
supporters who are not necessarily card-carrying party members.
Senator Joyal noted that, although in the House of Commons the LPC is
the second opposition party, in the Senate it still has the status of Official
Opposition.
Senator Rivard, representing the
Conservative Party of Canada (CPC), noted his party’s origins in the
merger of the former Progressive Conservative Party, which had been reduced to
two M.P.s in 1993, and the clearly right-of-centre Reform Party.
Prime Minister Stephen Harper was instrumental in the merger of the forces of
the right, which led to two minority governments in 2006
and 2008 and a majority in 2011. Senator Rivard noted the two main
bills tabled by the government since the convening of the present parliament:
(a) a bill to amend the firearms registry legislation, passed in
March 2012; and (b) an omnibus justice bill designed to protect
victims of crime and toughen sentencing for a number of types of crime. Senator
Rivard noted Canada’s excellent economic performance. A budget will be tabled
in late March 2012 that Senator Rivard is convinced will be acceptable to
Canadians. Senator Rivard concluded by outlining Senate reform, aimed firstly
at allowing the provinces to elect senators and secondly at reducing senators’
term of office to a nine-year non-renewable period. He expressed the view that,
while provinces such as Ontario and Quebec oppose this reform, given the
government’s majority in the Senate and in the House of Commons the reform will
eventually be adopted.
On this point, Élaine Michaud, M.P.,
and member of the NDP, expressed the opinion that the proposed Senate
reform is unconstitutional. She noted her party’s unexpected May 2nd,
2011 victory, electing 59 M.P.s in Quebec and 103 nationwide and thus
giving the NDP the status of Official Opposition. The NDP elected
representatives are very young (20 M.P.s are under 30 years of age),
and 40% of them are women. Ms. Michaud noted that her party’s leader Jack
Layton had passed away on August 22, 2011. A leadership convention
will be held in Toronto on March 24, 2012. In the meantime, 130,000
members will be able to vote by Internet. At present there are six leadership
candidates. Ms. Michaud stated that Quebec did not see itself reflected in
certain bills tabled by the government. In her view, despite certain positive
indicators the Canadian economy is fragile overall; as well, the situation of
Canada’s First Nations is cause for concern.
Mr. Colombier, of the Union pour
un mouvement populaire (UMP), noted that France holds Senate elections
every three years, replacing half of its senators. The National Assembly,
which is re-elected in its entirety every five years, rose on March 6th,
2012, in preparation for its elections: the election of the President on
April 22nd and May 6th; and the election of
members of the National Assembly on June 10th and 17th.
The National Assembly will reconvene on June 26th, 2012.
Ms. Coutelle, of the Parti socialiste, explained that at a
2011 convention to identify a candidate for the presidential election, her
party had adopted a “primaries” method and eliminated consecutive terms of
office. The Parti socialiste primaries generated high interest, with voter
turnout at 2,500,000. At the conclusion of the second round, François
Hollande was identified as the candidate, rallying the support of all the other
candidates. Overall the primaries proved to be successful and revitalized the
political scene. Ms. Coutelle explained that politics in France becomes
focused every five years at the time of the presidential election, which
is highly personalized and mediatized and is accompanied by daily surveys that
often produce contradictory indications. Mr. Colombier agreed, noting that
campaigns focus more on form and personalities than on substance. Senator
Conway Mouret added that, increasingly, major political rallies during
campaigns resemble big political gatherings in the United States with bands,
staged entries and multiple photo opportunities. Image trumps content, and
social networks are increasingly important.
Following these overviews, at the
request of the French Group, discussion ensued on the election of members of
the National Assembly to represent French citizens living abroad, a point of
diplomatic controversy between the two countries. Apparently
2.5 million French citizens live abroad; of this number,
approximately 70,000 live in Canada, including 40,000 in Quebec.
Under France’s recently-passed electoral reform, 11 members of the
National Assembly are to be elected to represent various regions of the world,
including one member to represent North America. Canada opposes the method
being considered by France to hold this vote. From France’s perspective, the
issue is seen as technical: Canada refuses to allow French citizens to vote in
locations other than embassies and consulates, for example in French lycées.
Senator Joyal asked whether French citizens may vote early, by mail or by
Internet, alternative methods to voting at polling stations that are widely
used in Canada: apparently these voting methods are not yet current in France.
Senator Tardif wondered whether
there were underlying reasons for Canada’s refusal: for example, the idea that
a member of France’s National Assembly, legitimately elected in North America,
could take a stand in the National Assembly on Canada’s domestic and
international policies could be seen as disturbing, to say the least. Senator
Conway Mouret expressed the opinion that this possibility should be ruled out,
since French parliamentarians elected abroad represent only French citizens
resident in their constituency and have no mandate to take a stand on another
country’s domestic affairs.
b)Working dinner at the Canadian Embassy
Ambassador Marc Lortie welcomed the
Canadian delegation to his residence for a working dinner, to which he invited
two eminent experts on elections: Mr. Gaël Sliman, director of the
BVA survey firm, and Mr. Gérard Courtois, political columnist for Le
Monde.
As the Canadian delegation arrived in
France, contradictory surveys had just been published, some placing candidate
Sarkozy, and others candidate Hollande, in the lead in the first round of the
presidential election. That said, all surveys predicted a wide lead for
candidate Hollande following the second round.
Both experts candidly and openly
offered highly enlightened comments on these surveys, evaluated the
two main candidates’ strengths and weaknesses in terms of political
platform and personal style, and described scenarios that could alter trends
observed since the beginning of the campaign. Transfers of support from other
candidates on the second round were also analyzed. Mr. Sliman and
Mr. Courtois noted the main issues of this election campaign: most
importantly unemployment, but also social fragmentation, security, immigration,
identity, diversity, and the Euro crisis.
With regard to the Euro crisis and the
European Union (EU), Ambassador Lortie and Senator Joyal expressed Canada’s favourable
opinion of the EU, as well as surprise at EU members’ inability to
solve these problems and address the dysfunction that surfaces from one crisis
to another.
In conclusion, Mr. Sliman and
Mr. Courtois offered their predictions on possible candidates for the
position of France’s Prime Minister, depending on which of the leading
candidates is elected President. The Canadian parliamentarians emerged from
this meeting well satisfied with what they had learned and better informed
about what is at stake in France’s upcoming elections.
Friday, March 16, 2012
a)Presentation by SolarWall Europe
In the morning, at the National
Assembly, Standing Committee members attended a presentation by Ms. Anouck
Colson, Associate Director of the Canadian company Conserval Engineering Inc. /
SolarWall Europe. On December 13th, 2011, this
company distinguished itself by being awarded one of the Canada-France awards
for small and medium-sized businesses.
Founded in 1977, Conserval
Engineering Inc. has its head office in Toronto, a United States subsidiary in
Buffalo, and a European subsidiary, SolarWall Europe, in Paris. The company has
clients in 32 countries; these clients include Auchan, Walmart, FedEx,
Ford, Bombardier, Boeing, General Motors, and the Canadian and United States
armies. This company invented a solar air heating technology for large
buildings called SolarWall. SolarWall is a renewable-energy technology that
forms an integral part of buildings; it is used to heat interior air and to
meet building ventilation and heating system needs. It heats interior air to
between 5º C and 30º C above the outdoor temperature. It is
simple to install, has the same useful life as the building, and requires
little maintenance. Using this technology can reduce heating costs by
between 15% and 50%, depending on site parameters. The investment pays for
itself quickly, in between two and five years. In France,
15 SolarWall projects have been completed since 2009 and projects
valued at 8 million Euros are planned for 2012.
Following this presentation,
parliamentarians were taken to the Pépinière building in the
18th arrondissement, where the SolarWall technology has been installed in
a new building that houses emerging businesses. After meeting representatives
of the city of Paris and the project partners and architects, parliamentarians
visited the building rooftop to view the features of this technology.
b)Working lunch at the Senate
Standing Committee members met again to
discuss the reorganization and the next activities of the Association.
After discussion, agreement was reached
on the following points:
·The Association will continue to meet twice
per year, once in France and once in Canada;
·The duration of meetings will be reduced to
three or four days, and the regional cultural discovery portion will be
minimized;
·The number of Canadian participants attending
meetings in France will be reduced to seven; the number of French participants
attending meetings in Canada may vary between seven and as many as
nine participants, in order to ensure greater representation of the
political parties in both houses of France’s legislature. In order to adapt
these changes to budget realities in both countries and streamline the
Association’s funding, it was agreed that the French Group would be responsible
for its transportation and accommodation expenses during travel in Canada, and
that the Canadian Group would do the same during its travel in France;
·The Association’s work will focus on only two
themes each year (to be considered both at the meeting in France and at the
meeting in Canada), in order to maximize in-depth discussion of the themes;
·As a transition measure to the
two-meeting-per-year format, the Canadian Group maintain its invitation for an
expanded Standing Committee to Ottawa. Dates were discussed, and consensus was
reached for November 18th to 21st, 2012.
On behalf of the Canadian delegation,
Senator Tardif accepted the proposed changes to the Association’s operations,
subject to approval by the Canadian Group’s Executive Committee, which will
consider these changes at its next meeting.
Discussion ensued on the themes to be
chosen for the following year. Agreement was reached on the following themes:
(a) retirement and pensions; (b) sustainable cities.
c)Meeting-discussion on the repercussions of the Arab Spring events
and the situation in Syria
In the afternoon, Standing Committee
members had the immense privilege of taking part in a very high-level
discussion with two significant stakeholders in the Arab Spring events,
particularly the situation in Syria: Mr. Nassif Hitti, the Arab League’s
ambassador to France; and Mr. Éric Chevallier, France’s ambassador to
Syria (who had been recalled to Paris a few days previously).
To begin, Mr. Hitti stated that
external military interference in Syria would be counterproductive and that a
political solution is the only way. He noted a radicalization of discourse and
a splintering of political and societal space. He added that the situation in
Syria is the opposite of the experiences in Tunisia and Egypt. Syria is a
mosaic of loyalties to mini-religious groups; these loyalties must be carefully
managed. Mr. Hitti suggested that whoever controls Syria controls the
Middle East. He noted the strong resurgence of Turkey and Iran in the current
dynamics of the situation in Syria, which has characteristics of the Cold War.
Recalling Mr. Kofi Annan’s unsuccessful recent visit to Syria,
Mr. Hitti noted that the Syrian government refuses any external
intervention and seeks only internal dialogue. He noted the proposals made by
Mr. Annan in his capacity as representative of the United Nations and the
Arab League, on the basis of the Arab League’s resolution: (a) a halt to
all violence; (b) access for humanitarian aid; (c) dialogue among the
factions and with the government; (d) a national unity government;
(e) a government headed by a person chosen by consensus;
(f) presidential and legislative elections, preceded by the election of a
constituent assembly; and (g) democratic government and institutions.
In the short and the medium term,
Mr. Hitti expressed a pessimistic outlook. The situation is turning into a
war of attrition, and the country is at risk of imploding.
Ambassador Chevallier was not much
more optimistic. The crisis in Syria has lasted for over one year, will
continue, and may become even more violent. Although at one point the hopes of
the Syrian people turned toward Tunisia and Egypt, this anguished country now
looks toward Baghdad and Beirut. The balance of power now favours the government,
with the Syrian army suppressing insurgents. There is a real possibility of
civil war, as hope for a solution to the crisis fades and violence accelerates.
In fact, internal opposition is splintered among the left, the right, Muslims,
Christians and other groups, each of which has external support.
Ambassador Chevallier described
the closure of France’s embassy in Damascus and the effects on French nationals
and staff. He noted that, since the departure of dictators in Egypt, Iraq and
Syria, the situation of religious minorities has worsened. He suggested that
the “consensual” democracy in Iraq among Shiites, Sunnites and Kurds, based on
the Lebanese model, has failed. Canada, like France, has closed its embassy in
Syria; in the event that emergency consular assistance is required, Canada has
an agreement in place with the Hungarian embassy.
Parliamentarians questioned the two
ambassadors on the role of Russia and China in Syria. Mr. Hitti and
Mr. Chevallier noted a change in these countries’ policies that brings
them closer to the international consensus, but also pointed out these
countries’ frustration at not being able to control the Syrian government.
China appears to be more flexible, since it has interests in the Gulf
countries.
Discussion ensued on the effectiveness
of the sanctions ordered by the international community as a whole. The
ambassadors expressed the view that the most effective sanctions are those that
affect Syria’s oil and gas exports and its central banks, individually targeted
sanctions, and travel restrictions. Other types of sanctions could cause
greater harm to the population than to the government.
In response to a question by Senator
Joyal on the source of armed support for Syrian insurgents, the ambassadors
responded that, with the support of all the Arab countries, a light arms supply
route via Lebanon is becoming privatized. The government is supplied with arms
by Russia and probably Iran.
In the opinion of
Ambassadors Hitti and Chevallier, a solution to the crisis in Syria
depends on unity among the factions about the country’s future outlook
including its economy and institutions, that is, on a shared vision that
transcends the country’s diversity.
Information was exchanged on the
presence of weapons of mass destruction in Syria, Israel’s attitude toward the
crisis in Syria, the respective roles of Hamas and Hezbollah, and humanitarian
assistance. The two ambassadors expressed the opinion that, although the
Red Cross, the Red Crescent and the United Nations are possible channels for
humanitarian assistance, forcing these channels open at present would
constitute a declaration of war against the Syrian regime.
d)Canada-EU free trade agreement
Mr. Jean Dominique Ieraci of the
Canadian Embassy and Mr. Colombier, Chair of the French Group of the
Association, gave a presentation on the status of negotiations toward a
Canada-EU free trade agreement.
In Mr. Ieraci’s view, the actual
negotiating rounds have been completed, and the parties have reached the
compromise stage. In these negotiations, France’s interests are:
(a) access to national, provincial and municipal government procurement
contracts in Canada: on this point, reciprocity (that is, access to European
government procurement contracts) is problematic; (b) intellectual
property, particularly in pharmaceutical products; (c) geographic
indicators on food products; (d) the issue of Saint-Pierre-et-Miquelon,
which as a French overseas territory is not part of the EU;
(e) better protection for investors; and (f) greater mobility of
persons.
The agreement will require assent by
not only the EU but also the European Parliament and each member country.
The idea is supported by both leading candidates in France’s presidential
election, in terms of fair trade, reciprocity, and opportunity for growth.
Mr. Colombier pointed out that the
access to Canadian markets being sought by France is broader than that negotiated
in the North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA). France would
also like to gain access to financial markets. Under the cultural exception,
France wishes to exempt cultural products such as books and films.
Mr. Colombier reiterated Mr. Ieraci’s comments on intellectual
property and rules of origin. As well, France seeks to expand free trade in
dairy products, and is still concerned about oil sands development and seal
products.
Senator Rivard, a member of the
Senate Standing Committee on Agriculture, raised the issue of exports to Europe
of ice wine and hormome-raised beef and pork products. Ms. Élaine Michaud
emphasized the importance of supply management in Quebec for farm products
including milk and eggs: these industries could be seriously threatened if the
future agreement provided for freer trade in these products.
Following this meeting, participants
met to bid farewell to Mr. Colombier, who will not stand for the upcoming
legislative election in May. Senator Tardif, the Chair of the Canadian Group,
highlighted Mr. Colombier’s exceptional and steadfast contribution to the
Association for nearly 10 years, and his aptitude for bringing people
together beyond political differences. Mr. Colombier reiterated his deep
attachment to Canada and to the Association. The Standing Committee also paid
homage to Mr. Meissonnier, who from his position in the Senate has
supported the Association for 10 years. Mr. Meissonnier has been
transferred to another department and will soon be leaving his duties with the
France-Canada Association.
e)Dinner at the residence of Canada’s ambassador to UNESCO
Mr. Jean-Pierre Blackburn,
Canada’s new ambassador to UNESCO, invited the Canadian delegation to a
very convivial dinner at his residence. Having been appointed only six weeks
previously, Mr. Blackburn said how pleased he was by his appointment to
Paris, but did not conceal the fact that many challenges awaited him. He
already notes lessened use of French at UNESCO, a subject of personal
concern.
Conclusion
The Standing Committee’s meeting in
Paris was an important one in the Association’s history. The changes made and
about to be made in the leadership of the French Group and its administrative
support in the Senate, as well as the budget restrictions facing both legislatures,
led the Standing Committee to review the Association’s structure, funding and
future activities. The Standing Committee is particularly pleased to have
maintained a two-meeting-per-year format, with shorter meetings, and to focus
its work on a limited number of themes.
Respectfully submitted,
The Honourable Claudette Tardif, Senator Chair of the Canada-France Interparliamentary
Association