The Canadian NATO Parliamentary
Association has the honour to present its report on the Visit to Warsaw,
Poland by Science and Technology Committee Officers, April 24, 2008. The
Assembly delegation, led by Committee Chairman
Michael Mates (UK), travelled to Warsaw to discuss the
proposed deployment of the US missile defence system in Central Europe. Canada
was represented by Senator Pierre Claude Nolin, Vice-Chairperson and Special
Rapporteur on Climate Change.
OVERVIEW
The delegation met with Defence Minister Bogdan Klich;
Poland's chief missile defence negotiator Witold Waszczykowski; senior
representatives of the General Staff of the Polish Armed Forces; and members of
both chambers of the parliament from the ruling coalition as well as opposition
parties.
Jerzy Szmajdziński, Deputy Speaker of the Sejm
(representing the left-wing opposition), said preliminary negotiations with the
United States started as early as 2003 when he was Defence Minister in the
then- government. Before turning into an open political issue, the project had
been discussed for years at the level of military experts, including talks with
their Russian counterparts. According to Mr. Szmajdziński, the missile
defence system should not cause any divisions within the Alliance and should
not be seen as a threat by the Russians. The proposed system should also
gradually become part of an overarching NATO-wide system. He praised the
decisions of the NATO Bucharest Summit that clearly outlined the Alliance's
position on missile defence.
Answering questions from NATO parliamentarians
concerning internal and external opposition to the project, Mr.
Szmajdziński said that the benefits of the system should be better
explained. Currently some 29 countries possess ballistic missiles. The proposed
anti-missile system can provide an effective deterrence against some of these
countries' capabilities, thus providing additional leverage for the diplomatic
efforts to deal with "rogue states". He also noted that more than 50%
of Poles are not supporting the proposal, but he hopes that this percentage
will decrease as more explanation is provided. Major political parties in
Poland have similar views and support the proposal, although there are some
prominent figures on the left, who are still skeptical and call for more public
debate on the issue.
Witold Waszczykowski, Secretary of State at the Ministry
of Foreign Affairs and Poland's chief negotiator on the missile defence
proposal, stressed that time is not a crucial factor in the negotiations with
the United States. Instead, what matters is obtaining the right terms for the
hosting of the installations. There has been progress in the negotiations
between Poland and the United States, but it is not yet clear when a deal might
be finalized. The Polish authorities are, in principle, in favour of the plan,
but the decision as to whether or not to host the interceptor base will be made
only after the negotiations are concluded.
Poland views the US proposal in a broader context as a
vehicle to strengthen the transatlantic link. NATO's theatre and territorial
defence projects are complementary and not competing with the "Third
Site". The "NATO-isation" of the US system is possible, but for
Poland a stronger bilateral link with the United States has value in itself.
Mr. Waszczykowski pointed out that the Polish people have experience in
national security matters, and the public support can eventually increase. The
Polish authorities launched a number of public relations projects to explain
the benefits of missile defence, including Internet portals, conferences,
books, and leaflets, but the full-scale campaign will only start after the
negotiations are concluded and the terms of the deal are established.
With regard to Russia's opposition, Mr. Waszczykowski
said that there is a widespread belief in the Russian society that the West is
encircling Russia, and the "Third Site" is yet another manifestation
of its aggressive intentions towards Russia. Scientific explanations of the
proposed system are not effective, due to the politicization of the issue.
However, Mr. Waszczykowski believes that some of the harsh anti-Western
rhetoric in Russia could be attributed to the recently concluded electoral
campaigns. As NATO enlargement has shown, Russian opposition tends to fade once
the decision is made.
As a former Polish Ambassador in Iran, Mr. Waszczykowski
was asked to comment on the potential ballistic missile threat from that
country. He noted that Iran is engaged in suspicious missile, nuclear and
satellite programmes that could potentially pose a threat to the transatlantic
community. Moreover, negotiations with the Iranian government and sanctions
imposed by the UN have largely been ineffective. When all diplomatic means are
exhausted, building a defence system seems to be a prudent decision.
Bogdan Klich, National Defence Minister, stressed that
his party - the Civic Platform - has always supported the notion of integrating
the American missile defence assets into a NATO-wide framework. In addition,
the new Polish government believes that the installation of the "Third
Site" will require Poland to reassess its security policy strategy, taking
into account new challenges such as asymmetric threats and the protection of
the proposed installations. Therefore, any agreement with the United States
must contain the terms of American modernisation assistance to the Polish Armed
Forces . He reiterated that the Polish government has yet to give its consent
to the US proposal.
The Minister also believes that the Russian opposition
to the project was decreasing. He is not convinced that compromise proposals
such as delayed installation of interceptors in silos would be effective, as
Russia's opposition rests purely on geostrategic interests in this part of the
world. Nevertheless, military co-operation and dialogue with Russia are taking
place and can be further expanded. Russia's inspections of the missile defence
site could be envisaged, but Mr. Klich explicitly rejected the possibility of
permanent presence of Russian military personnel at the base. Reciprocal
inspections by Polish experts in Russia could be another precondition. Mr.
Mates asked whether the interceptor site could be expanded as Iran's missile
threat increases. The Minister replied that the current negotiations with the
United States do not envisage such a possibility.
Members of the STC also met with representatives of the
National Defence and the Foreign Affairs Committees of the Sejm and the Senate.
Polish legislators stressed that Poland seeks to play an active role as a
security provider for the Alliance, including the area of defence against
ballistic missiles. They also noted that the increased engagement of NATO in
missile defence planning would facilitate the efforts of parliamentarians to convince
their voters to support the project. To alleviate Russia's concerns, the US,
Russia, Poland and the Czech Republic consider organizing a joint meeting of
the parliamentarians of the four countries specifically on missile defence.
The NATO PA delegation also visited the Headquarters of
the General Staff of the Polish Armed Forces. The senior officers of the
General Staff briefed NATO parliamentarians on the Polish Army modernisation
plans which include full professionalisation by 2010, as well as increased
mobility and interoperability with other Allied forces. Currently, 3,650 Polish
military personnel are contributing to 9 international peace missions.
Respectfully submitted,
Mr.
Leon Benoit, M.P.
Chair Canadian NATO Parliamentary Association
(NATO PA)